SumoSprings, renowned as an airbag alternative, often leave enthusiasts curious about the meanings behind their colors and how these nuances impact the overall application. In this comprehensive guide, we’ll embark on a journey to unveil the secrets of SumoSprings’ colors, delving deep into their densities and shedding light on how to make the most informed choice for your vehicle.
Unveiling the Innovation: SumoSprings Composition
Diverging from the conventional rubber, SumoSprings stand out as a testament to innovation. Crafted from micro-cellular polyurethane filled with millions of tiny air bubbles, these suspension marvels boast a maintenance-free design coupled with a robust lifetime warranty. What sets SumoSprings apart from rubber bump stops is their identity as progressive springs, delivering support precisely when needed while preserving your factory ride quality. This departure from the norm prompts us to use the term “density” instead of the more common “durometer” associated with rubber components.
Understanding the Density of SumoSprings
Understanding the density of SumoSprings involves unraveling the manufacturing process intricacies. Carefully integrated air pockets in the material create a progressive spring characteristic. The various colors assigned to SumoSprings correlate with different air pocket densities, resulting in a spectrum of lighter to heavier densities. This unique feature empowers us to fine-tune load capacity, ensuring optimal performance tailored to your specific needs.
Understanding the Colors: Three SumoSprings Densities
SumoSprings come in three distinctive colors, each offering a unique density rating:
- Blue SumoSprings: Embodying the lightest density, identifiable by part numbers ending in -40.
- Black SumoSprings: Representing a medium density, distinguished by part numbers ending in -47.
- Yellow SumoSprings: Flaunting the heaviest density, identified by part numbers ending in -54.
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Choosing Wisely: Why Size Isn’t Everything
In the realm of SumoSprings, the color holds the key to performance, debunking the myth that bigger equates to better. Opting for a higher-density load support might seem appealing, but it can have a detrimental impact on your unloaded ride quality. Our mission is to guide you in selecting the right color based on your setup, vehicle specifications, lifestyle, and intended usage. Should you require assistance in this crucial decision-making process, our team is just a message away.
Tailoring Your Selection: Matching Your Needs
While our content often features the versatile blue SumoSprings, renowned for providing excellent support, vibration reduction, and addressing sagging and body roll, the choice of color hinges on your unique requirements.
- Blue: Tailored for weekend warriors towing trailers, offering support without compromising daily drive quality.
- Black or Yellow: Ideal for vehicles consistently loaded, such as vans or trucks with permanent campers, providing additional support and vibration reduction.
To further demystify the colors, watch our insightful video where we illustrate the distinctions between the colors.
The Path to Perfect Selection: Leveraging the Application Guide
Navigate the array of SumoSprings options effortlessly by leveraging our application guide. It serves as your compass, guiding you to the perfect SumoSprings kit for your specific vehicle. Need personalized guidance? Don’t hesitate to reach out; our dedicated team is here to ensure your journey on the road is not just smooth but tailored to your exacting standards.
Use our application guide to see what we have for your vehicle.
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We tow a 15000lb Fifth Wheel with our 2021 F-350 4×4 SRW Truck, and have 3000lb added to the rear axels. Which Sumo spring combination would you recommend for this setup. We don’t use the truck for a daily driver unless we are on location with the Fifth wheel which we live in full time.
Hi, I have 2021 GMC Savana 2500. I didn’t like how it sagging and rolling. No towing anything.
That you suggest for better stability, ride comfort and less bumpy?
I have a 2012 F150 with a small truck camper (1100lb loaded). Not sure whether I should go blue or black? The camper will not be on the truck all the time. Hoping to reduce sag and improve ride. Thanks
Hi! We would definitely recommend the blue. The truck could have a poor ride with the black while unloaded.
I have a 2021 thor vegas 24.3 7.3 ford. GW approximately 13000. Terrible vibration over rough asphalt and joints. Looking at sumo springs.
Which SumoSprings would you recommend on a 2020 Jayco Melbourne Prestige 24ft RV? It’s on a 2019 Mercedes Sprinter 3500 chassis. It’s always very fully loaded at or close to it’s GVWR of 11030 lb. We do not tow.
On the Facebook groups I’m a part of a lot of people seem to recommend yellow rear and black front, but I’m concerned that may make for a harsher ride. Just looking to improve the sway and body roll. Any recommendations?
Thanks!
Hi Megan – I think the experts in the Facebook groups are pretty close on this one! For what you’re talking about, you’ll want the yellow (-54) SumoSprings in the rear. The SSR-338-54 has a weight rating of 1,400lbs at 50% compression, so you’ll be nicely engaged and enjoying the benefits of vibration reduction, sway control, and limiting body roll.
For the front, I’d recommend the blue (-40) SumoSprings to stop that nose from diving and keep everything settled.
If you’re going to get both, we sell it as one whole kit – the K-30-007.
Hope that helps! Let me know if you’ve got any other questions!
Hi,
I tow a 11,700 lb fifth wheel (2400lb pin weight) with a 2023 Silverado 3500 crew cab std bed SRW 4×4 truck. The truck is used to tow 50 – 60% of the time, with a mix of short 5-6 hour trips and cross country trips. I have read all of the responses here but it seems they are on each end of the spectrum. Which model would you recommend for my usage and setup?
Thanks
Hi Jeff! Great question and thank you for being specific with how often you’re loaded up and/or towing. In your case, you’ll want the SSR-203-40-2. This is the blue 2-piece rebel.
These rear SumoSprings have a 3,000lb capacity at 50% compression, meaning it’ll take that much weight to move the spring by 3.5″. With your tongue weight being around a third of that, you’re going to see little to no sagging when loaded up. The beauty of this 2-peice rebel design is that you’ll keep your factory unloaded ride – it’s a 2023 truck so it rides beautifully unloaded and that shouldn’t change. But when you load up and tow, you’ll get all the sag control, vibration reduction and body roll control.
Once you’ve sorted out the rear suspension, we also recommend a solution for the front since the weight will transfer to the front of the truck. In your case, you’ll want the SSF-202-47.
Make sure you check out the Trailer SumoSprings for your 5th wheel!
Hope that helps! Let me know if you’ve got any other questions!
Hello
I have a 2020 F450 crew cab with Upper and lower a Torklift suspension and adjustable Rancho shocks.
I haul a Host 3 slide truck camper that puts about 5500 lbs in the bed of the truck. When loaded the truck only squats down about 3”.
Would the Sumosprings help with the Sag and the ride when loaded?
Thanks Kelly
Hi Kelly — our SSR-118-54 Yellow SumoSprings are probably your best option here. The steel SuperSprings don’t work with those Torklift parts. As far as what you’ll see with the SumoSprings, there’s be vibration and sway reduction and limit some of the sag. Without adding them, I’d guess you’d get about 1″ of the sag back with the SSR-118-54. Hope that helps! Let us know if you have any more questions.
Hi. I am looking to purchase both front and rear SumoSprings for my 2015 Forrester RV on 2014 Sprinter 2WD DRW chassis ( 3500 ). It has a GVWR of 11030 and fully loaded I am close to GVWR ( front axle weight ~ 4100 lbs and rear axle weight ~ 6900 LBs ) . I do not tow a vehicle but I do normally carry 2 ebikes on my back hitch ( ~ 130 LBS including bike carrier ). Looking to reduce side to side sway when coming out of driveways/gas stations/etc as much as possible but not so much to make drive feel more stiff.
Can you recommend best combination of blue/black/yellow densities for me?
Thanks,
Bill
Author
Hi Bill, great question! I’d recommend using the SSF-106-40 in the front and SSR-338-54 in the rear. Let us know if you have any other questions!
I have a 2022 Sprinter van 2500. It is a fully built camper van and is factory 4×4 with the factory lift. Which front and rear dump springs do you recommend. We boondoggle camp off road most of the time. Thanks
Hi Bill! The SSF-327-47 for the front and the SSR-327-40-2 would be an excellent choice for your build! Let us know if we can answer anything else for you!
-Justin
Hi there! We would recommend the SSF-327-47 for the front and the SSR-327-40-2 for the rear on your build! Let us know if we can answer anything else for you!
-Justin
I have a LMC 7205Ti homecar on a 2004-model Sprinter chassis (single wheels). The total load on the car is 3800kg (2240kg rear and 1560 front). Im not shure what kind of sumosprings I have to order.
Hi there,
The SumoSprings kits available depend on the model of Sprinter you have.
If you have the Sprinter 2500:
Front
SSF-402-54
Rear
SSR-329-47
If you have the Sprinter 3500:
Front
SSF-402-54
Rear
SSR-338-47 or SSR-338-54
When choosing between the SSR-338-47 and SSR-338-54, it’s about density and weight-bearing. If your primary goal is ride quality, comfort and stability, go with the SSR-338-47 (black). If your main goal is sag and sway reduction, then the SSR-338-54 (yellow) would make more sense. Feel free to give the team a call for more assistance!
Just purchased a 2017 Leisure Travel Van which is on a Ford F350 Transit Chassis with the 3.2L I-5 turbo. It has quite a bit of ‘wiggle, sway and bounce’ on uneven roads and I’m going to upgrade the sway bar to a Hellwig and put Sumo springs on it. I will be frequently towing a small 6×8 cargo trailer, approx. 2500-3000# max. I’m thinking the black sumo springs front and rear? Also wondering if there are certain shocks that pair well with these springs, if it is determined the ones I have are worn?
Hey Auri,
Thanks for checking in with us at SuperSprings International! We don’t have a SumoSprings option for the front, but we do make the Coil SumoSprings which are manufactured from the same material. Typically, the yellow (-54) is the popular choice with the Transit 350, but if it’s not excessively loaded the the black (-47) would be more than enough. The black kit doesn’t compress as easily, meaning it doesn’t handle the weight as well as the yellow kit, but it gives a bit of a better ride quality. Here’s the link to our combo kit for front and back:
CSS-1195, SSR-121-54
https://www.superspringsinternational.com/shop/k-10-008/
Hi! I have a 2015 F-150 and am getting a truck camper that will max out the payload for the truck – about 2,000lb fully loaded – maybe more. What do you recommend? I am also planning to eventually upgrade to an F250 so Im hoping the same system will work for both trucks.
Seems like this might be the way to go…
Rear – SSR-315-40-2
Front – SSF-302-40
But would the SSR-116-40 or -47 work?
Thanks!
Hey Austin!
If your truck is mostly used while loaded up with additional weight, I’d recommend the black (-47) density. If not, and your truck is primarily used while unloaded as a “daily driver” and only loaded up on occasion, I’d recommend the blue (-40) density. Unfortunately the SumoSprings for an F-150 are different from the F-250 and cannot be transferred over. The kits you listed for the F-250 are definitely the way to go though. Feel free to give me a call if you have more questions!
Peter Garcia
Service & Support Manager
[email protected]
(805) 881-5205
I have a Rampromaster 1500 and I have the yellow springs. There is about 3/4″ between the spring and the leaf. I also added Bilstein shocks. All was great for the first 5 months, but now every bump hits really hard (sounds like 2x4s smacking). What do you recommend as the best solution>
Hi Jeremy,
Thanks for reaching out! The ProMaster 1500 is the lightest of the three ProMaster chassis which is why we typically recommend one of the lighter density SumoSprings kits (-40/blue or -47/black). Since the 1500 chassis is not as heavy as the 2500 or 3500, we’d expect for there to be a gap between the SumoSprings and the nearest point of contact. With the yellow -54 density, that could result in a bit of a stiff ride much like you say you are experiencing. How many spacers do you have installed?
I have a 2010 e450 shuttle bus that I converted into a camper. I’m right at 9400lbs on the rear axle. I’m sagging and am considering upgrading to Sumo springs. Which would you recommend, I don’t want to lose comfort as that’s my second priority. I also thought about adding bilstein shocks to improve jarring and rattling.
Hey Logan,
Peter here, thanks for your message. I’d recommend the blue Maxim for carrying capacity but also for full ride comfort and support. Take a look here and let me know if you have any questions: https://www.superspringsinternational.com/shop/ssr-106-40-1/
I have a 2016 Ram 2500 4×4 Crew Cab Short Bed Laramie diesel. Trying to decide which rear springs I need. The truck has a consistent 535 lbs in the bed and then I hook a fifth wheel camper with a pin weight of 1769 lbs. The truck doesn’t sag very much but it does want to sway some. 70 percent of the trucks utilization is pulling this load. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks – Douglas.
Hi Douglas,
You’ve come to the right place! Based on how you’re using your truck, I recommend the blue (-40) Rebel kit. This is our largest kit for this truck perfect for enhancing the carrying capacity and reducing sag. However, the blue is the softest density we manufacture SumoSprings in which is perfect for light loads and an unloaded ride quality. Here is the part number, let me know if you have any questions!
Rear
SSR-315-40-2
https://www.superspringsinternational.com/shop/ssr-315-40-2/
Front
SSF-302-40
https://www.superspringsinternational.com/shop/ssf-302-40/
Peter thanks for the information. I do have one other question. When unloaded, will this add any height to the rear of the truck? Thanks again.
Hi again Douglas. No, the SumoSprings will not add height when unloaded unless the vehicle is sagging. Both the front and rear kits are designed to “disengage” when there is no additional weight applied.
Thanks Peter. I appreciate all your help.
I have a 2020 F450 DWD that hauls a heavy (6000lb) truck camper most on the time.
I have Upper and Lower Stableloads installed as well.
The truck squats about 2.5” when the camper is loaded on.
Will the SumoSprings help that as well as some side to side sway?
Hey Kelly,
SumoSprings will definitely help with how you use your truck. However, SuperSprings – our patented steel leaf springs might be a better solution for your application. Give us a call for more info if interested!
I have a 2021 1500 Chevy trailboss 6.2 and I am a shuttle driver transporting rvs 10-20 miles I am looking at the black 47 ones to help prevent sag the rvs range from 3k-12k in weight is the black good for this
Hi Adam,
Yes, the -47 (black) density is perfect for a vehicle carrying constant weight. As long as this truck is not being driven while empty for substantial amounts of time, you should be very happy with the results!
I have a 2010 Toyota Tundra 4×4 Limited. I have a pull behind RV with a tongue weight of 615 lbs. We also have a fiberglass topper and camping equipment and a 110 lbs generator in the truck bed. We are driving to South Texas from Wisconsin for the winter months so will be putting on a lot of miles while towing. What would you recommend?
Hi Mr. Clare Craven,
It really depends on how often your truck is loaded up, but I’d recommend either the blue kit (SSR-610-40, 1,000 lbs. capacity @ 50% compression) or the black kit (SSR-610-47, 1,500 lbs. capacity @ 50% compression). We offer multiple densities to maintain the unloaded factory ride quality as much as possible. If you are looking to enhance carrying capacity but also want more of a cushion-like effect, then go with the blue kit. If you want more capacity, and don’t mind more of a firm feel to the unloaded ride, then go with the black kit.
SSR-610-40
https://www.superspringsinternational.com/shop/ssr-610-40/
SSR-610-47
https://www.superspringsinternational.com/shop/ssr-610-47/
Have a 2018 Coachman with a 22000 GVRW I see in most posts you recommend yellow for the rear but would the black give a better ride?
Hi Don,
We actually do not offer the black Maxim for the F53 Class A motorhomes. No need to worry about the ride though, our Engineers recommend and list each product after careful research and development. The SumoSprings are primarily designed to help with improving the ride!
I have an F350 DRW pickup to transport a 3,800 plus pound camper. I have some Torklift Stableloads (upper and lower) I engage when I haul the camper. I
have seen the great benefit to sumo springs on the rear of a previous SRW truck with a lighter camper which were the 1,800 lbs at 50%. I am asking if I should get the heavier 2800 lbs at 50% or stay with the 1,800 lbd ones? The truck is 60% operated empty, but 30% – 40% with a camper or pulling a 29 foot travel trailer with 1,000 lbs tongue weight. Thank you for your assistance in explaining the difference in two levels and a suggestion for which one to install.
Hi Bryan,
It really depends on what you’re looking to accomplish by upgrading the suspension. The lighter densities are typically recommended for vehicles that are mainly empty. The heavier kits are designed for vehicles mostly loaded up. Take a look at this quick video on the meaning of the colors with Adam Weisner, Chief Commercial Officer: https://youtu.be/ncIhSXPDDok
Hi Yasin,
Yes, adding SumoSprings would help dampen road shock and vibration to both the front and the rear. If you are simply looking for a better ride quality, the blue kits would be the most recommended options!
hi guys, I have a 2015 Ram 3500 Cab and Chassis truck with a heavy Homemade flatbed, because of this, the truck sits leveled and I’m happy with that, my problem is in the front, I have a solid front axle and each time I go over a speed bump I can literally feel the bump stops reaching limit, and that’s such an awful feeling, specially when I have 10 of those in my daily commute to work, do you guys think that the front sumosprings would solve this? is worth mentioning that I have stock suspension, 35 tires and as I said before, because of my heavy flatbed, I sit leveled.
Also, would adding some blue sumosprings to the back make the truck ride smoother?
We have a 2021 Thor Challenger with the v8 7.3 engine on the F53 chassis with MoRyde suspension and it is rated 24,000 gvw.
We are looking into the sumo springs. What do you recommend? Yellow in front blue in back? Or blue all around?
I know the Sumo springs are phenomenal on the old chassis. Have there been issues in the new one? I have also heard there are new brackets that must be used? We have heard from 2 people that the Sumo made their ride hard and they felt they were being held in the seat by their seatbelt but yet a few more say that are great? I am very confused.
Thank you for your help.
Hi Laura,
Thanks for checking in with us. We actually do not research to definitively say whether or not the SumoSprings will work in conjunction with the MORryde system on the Ford F53 chassis. It could be a matter of placement for both products, as they both attach to some point of the leaf pack, but could also be a matter of how each product affects the performance of one another.
Thanks for creating such a great product and being quick to respond to our questions. Great service.
I’m currently using Super Springs SSA43 on my 2015 Ford Transit T350HD Cutaway w/ Unicell Aerocell fiberglass box as a DIY camper van conversion and weigh about 10,000#.
The van will be under heavy load 100% of the time as it is our full-time live in creation.
Would you recommend adding Sumo Springs to the Super Springs that are about to be installed this week, if so, which Sumo Springs?
Additionally, do you provide a solution for the front suspension you’d recommend?
Thanks in advance!
-Samuel
Hi Samuel,
Thank you fro using SuperSprings and for asking about SumoSprings! Although the combination of SuperSprings and SumoSprings is a rare one on the transit, it is definitely a possibility if you are looking for additional load support and carrying capacity. I’d recommend a lighter density, and to potentially eliminate the use of any spacers since the SSA43 has more than likely lifted the application up some.
Take a look at this kit here:
SSR-121-47: https://www.superspringsinternational.com/shop/ssr-121-47/
This is the mid-density (black), and would add 1,500 lbs. of carrying capacity. Please let me know if you have any questions!
Hi,
I am acquiring a 2019 Ram Promaster 1500 (139 WB) that has been converted into a campervan and am unsure which version of Sumo Springs would be most appropriate for the rear wheels. We will be carrying the usual array of camping gear (nothing especially heavy) and not towing anything. I don’t know what the conversion added to the weight of the van, but it was a simple conversion (e.g., no water tanks, just two jugs) so probably a minimal weight add-on. Would you recommend the blue 40s, black 47s, or yellow 54s?
Thanks!
Hey there Brent, thank you for contacting us. Based off of the weight capacity and the type of conversion that you have, I would recommend the CSS-1168 for the front, and the SSR-313-40 for the rear. This is based off of the 1500 and that the conversion was very minimalist. Please let me know if you have any questions.
Front: https://www.superspringsinternational.com/application-guide/CSS-1168
Rear: https://www.superspringsinternational.com/application-guide/SSR-313-40
I have a 2020 Ford F250. I have a 2.5″ leveling kit on the front and stock in the rear. I occasionally tow a 32′ travel trailer loaded weight about 8k with a 1k tongue weight. I am utilizing a equalizer 4pt wdh. I am looking to alleviate some of the rear sag. Would the black 47 or yellow 54 be optimal for my setup. Thanks in advance.
Hi Kevin,
Thanks for reaching out! We’d really only recommend the -54 (yellow) density on a commercial vehicle where ride quality is not an issue because the truck is never unloaded or, a heavy motorhome with excessive weight applied at all times.
That being said, the -47 (black) does provide a firm feel to the truck while unloaded but is much less of a spring rate to help with the ride quality. Feel free to give me a call if you have any questions – Peter (805) 881-5205.
Thank you!
I have a 2004 Ford F250 Superduty 4×4 Long Bed Truck that we tow about once a month or once every month a 5th wheel that weighs about 10,000 lbs. We do have some sag when towing the trailer and want to reduce this as well as be more comfortable ride. What Sumospring would be the best for this? The SSR-140-54 or the SSR-140-47 or another?
Hi Susan,
What is the pin weight?
The SSR-140-47 is rated at 1500 lbs at 50% compression.
The SSR-140-54 is rated at 2800 lbs at 50% compression.
Although both the -47 and -54 are the same height, if the springs were to engage when unloaded the -54 will be much more firm than the -47. If you live in an area where there are a lot of bumpy /uneven roads, I’d recommend going with the -47 as you mentioned being concerned about your ride comfort. If reducing the squat when hauling is more important, then I would go with the 54.
I have a 2015 Tacoma OffRoad with tow capacity of 6200 lb. I usually keep less than 100 lb. of tools in the bed. We pull our 25’ 4500 lb. travel trailer once a month on trips. I’ve decided to add Sumo Springs rather than helper springs to help with a little sag I have even with my weight distribution hitch. Would you agree and would you recommend blue or black Sumo Springs?
Thank you
Hi Chris,
If your truck is mostly unloaded, go with the blue (-40), as we want to keep your unloaded ride quality in tact as much as possible.
If your truck is mostly loaded up, go with the black (-47), as the higher density works better while constantly engaged.
The black kit will not ruin the unloaded ride, but it will definitely provide and more “firm” feel, rather than a softer one while empty.
2013 ram 3500, crew cab, dually, diesel, long bed, 4×2 with optional 6K FGAWR (solid axle) all suspension parts and alignment specs are the same as 4×4 models including the jounce. installing 400lb front bumper should I get blue or yellow on front axle
Hi Steven,
We actually only offer the -47 (black) density for the front end of the 2013 Ram 3500 4×2. Part number SSF-301-47 is the only option confirmed and available for your particular truck. Since you are adding a heavy duty bumper however, this kit is the one that I’d recommend to replace/upgrade the factory bump stop. Please see the part via the link below, and let me know if you have any questions.
SSF-301-47 https://www.superspringsinternational.com/application-guide/SSF-301-47
Hi! I am considering Sumo Rebels for my 2015 F350 4×4 dually. It’s usually hauling a load, whether 1500 lbs of hay, or my large 4 horse LQ trailer with slideout – and I cringe when when the truck ‘squats’ about 3 inches when dropping the trailer down onto the gooseneck hitch. I’m looking to level the truck a bit and smooth the ride for my horses. Should I go with the SSR-139-47-2, or the SSR-139-40-2? Thanks!
Hello Kathy, based off of the information I would recommend the SSR-139-40-2, the SumoSprings work with the current suspension that is on the truck, so not all of the weight will be resting solely on the SumoSprings, these will help with keeping the truck level, but also provide you with a smoother ride and greater stability of the trailer. Please let me know if you have any questions.
I have a 2019 Forest River Georgetown XL class A motorhome. Last year after our first white knuckle trip, I put a Roadmaster heavy auxiliary sway bar on the rear axle and the Sate-T-Plus sterling stabilizer on the front. The ride and handling were significantly improved but we still got some roll in wind and when a semi would pass. Sometimes it would still push us. Look to see if you think the SumoSprings would significantly help our ride. We tow a 2004 Jeep Wrangler behind our motorhome. Thanks for your help in advance.
Hi Gary,
SumoSprings are designed to help alleviate the symptoms you listed above. Because of their ability to dissipate road shock/vibration, and reduce the amount of sway, we believe the SumoSprings would make a noticeable difference for your motorhome. for help with the part numbers, please provide the GVWR (Gross Vehicle Weight Rating).
Good morning,
I am trying to improve the ride on our 2000 Leisure Travel Van Class B RV. It is built by LTV on a Dodge Ram 3500 chassis. The current (original) bump stops are a long way from the axle and I doubt they are ever engaged.
I am looking at the SSR-302-47 as replacements for the rear of the vehicle. Would these work.
I can send a photo if that would help.
Respectfully submitted,
Cheers,
Chris
I am hauling an approximately 7,000 lb Toy Hauler trailer with a 2019 Ram 1500 Classic. The dry tongue weight of the trailer is 890lbs. I use a weight-distribution hitch to help with sway and sag. I am looking at sumo springs to help with sag a little be and improve the ride while towing. I am not towing all the time, but I am wondering if I should get the 1,500 lb rated springs since my tongue weight is close to the 1,000 lb rating. I do not expect my tongue weight will not be reduced much by loading my rear garage because I am not hauling anything heavy in the back of my trailer.
Hi Corey,
Thank you for reaching out. Because of how often the weight on your Ram changes, I recommend to consider the SSR-307-40 (1,000 lbs. capacity at 50% compression). The SumoSprings can compress to about 80% of the original body height, in which case they’d continue to give capacity. The micro-cellular urethane the SumoSprings are manufactured from is a progressive material, which means the more compression they experience, the more resistance they give.
The higher density SSR-307-47 (1,500 lbs.) is perfect for a vehicle that is constantly loaded, and only occasionally unloaded as it provides more of a “firm” feel to the unloaded ride quality.
SSR-307-40: https://www.superspringsinternational.com/shop/ssr-307-40/
SSR-307-47: https://www.superspringsinternational.com/application-guide/SSR-307-47
Let me know what questions you have Corey.
We have a 23 foot Nash travel trailer five years old. Leaf spring broke and the other leaf springs are in poor condition. We have two axle 3500 pound each. Wanted to increase capacity of the leaf springs but the next Available capacity was 5800 pounds per axle. I felt this would be too stiff so I purchased the standard leaf spring set replacing all four. I am Looking for something that would Softly limit the travel. Will your product help me? If so can you recommend Which product?
Thank you
Hello David,
Thank you for your entry, our trailer SumoSprings will help out with this issue that you are facing. Are you leaf springs over or under on your axle? This will determine which is the correct product for you. Looking forward to your response.
Thank you,
Mac
Getting ready to purchase and install Sumo’s on my 05 Ford excursion I’m towing a 27′ tow behind trailer dry weight 5000 lb dry what do you recommend?
Hello Tim,
Is your Excursion 4×4? If so, here are the front and rear part numbers for the SumoSprings Solo kit:
Front
SSF-109-40 https://www.superspringsinternational.com/shop/ssf-109-40/
Rear
SSR-109-40 https://www.superspringsinternational.com/shop/ssr-109-40/
If is is not 4×4, please give me a call when you have some time: (805) 881-5205
Thanks Tim!
Yes it is 4×4
Perfect! Then yes, here are the part numbers again:
Front
SSF-109-40 https://www.superspringsinternational.com/shop/ssf-109-40/
Rear
SSR-109-40 https://www.superspringsinternational.com/shop/ssr-109-40/
Let me know if you have any questions.
I own a 2015 Ram 1500 quad cab 4×4 Bighorn. I have a travel trailer with a 740 pound hitch weight that I tow 6-10 times a year
What spring would work best
Thank you
Hello Tim,
Appreciate the information. With the travel trailer having a Hitch weight of 740 pounds we would recommend the SSR-307-40 rated at 1,000 (lb) Capacity at 50% compression.
Here is the link to Part Number SSR-307-40: https://www.superspringsinternational.com/shop/ssr-307-40/
It is made of our lightest duty material so when you have the vehicle unloaded you will have a smooth ride and once you load it up with the trailer or add weight to the inside of the bed of the truck it will still give support and help resist the weight. We want to make sure you are getting the Support you are looking for when loading up the truck but also keep your unloaded ride comfortable.
Her is an installation video you can take a look at: https://youtu.be/uluA4YA0N9Q
Let us know if anything else comes up!
when using the springs in conjunction with a WD/Sway control hitch, am I correct in thinking that when I determine my Ball height, it shold be based on the height witht he truck loaded on sitting on the Sumo’s?
Tim
Hi Tim,
Thank you Tim. I’d recommend installing the SumoSprings first and then follow the standard instructions for setting up the hitch. Feel free to give us a call or let me know if you have any additional questions.
Thank you,
Jennifer
Hello,
I have a 2020 Toyota Tacoma Off Road with 4 leaf springs. The truck will generally always have a 150 pound topper, 200 pounds of tools/gear and two crated 50 pound dogs. In addition, I would occasionally pull a single axle trailer with a 700 pound atv and 200 pounds of gear. Any recommendations for sumo springs?
Thank you.
Jerry,
Thank you for the info and interest in SumoSprings. Since your truck is loaded up pretty much all the time, I recommend using the higher density of the two SumoSprings kits available for your 2020 Tacoma; part number SSR-612-47:
SSR-612-47 https://www.superspringsinternational.com/shop/ssr-612-47/
Take a look and let me know if you have any questions at all.
Thank you!
I have an tiffin 36la Motor home with GVW 24000 lbs. I would like to stop the roll, as well
as the blow of passing large trucks etc..
I am considering the Yellow for both the front and rear for my Coach.
What are your Thoughts.
Hello Roger,
Thank you for reaching out. One of the primary functions of SumoSprings is to reduce the sway and body roll, so you’re in the right place! We actually only manufacture the blue density for the front end of the Class A motorhomes built on the F53 chassis. Can you please let me know the year of the chassis so I can help with the proper part numbers or both front and rear? Thank you!
I’ve got an older Toyota Tundra (2nd gen) that use to haul loads in the bed and occasionally pull a utility trailer with. However, we dont want to deal with maintenance of pressure with airbags so considering sumosprings.
Originally considered the Yellow -54 springs; but after reading reviews about ride quality and rebound on cars with worn shocks / leaf springs am considering -47 sumosprings (maybe even -40).
Question: All of the ratings express capacity at 50% compression. What happens on the off chance the truck is loaded with more weight than the springs rating. Will the spring go to 75-80% compression? Will it ruin or crack the springs?
Hi Andy,
Your comments and questions are much appreciated! We’re glad you’re looking into the differences between the SumoSprings and a conventional airbag system. Unlike an airbag, SumoSprings are manufactured from a progressive micro-cellular urethane, which is able to compress, with full memory rebound. You pretty much hit the nail on the head with the maximum compression rate, as SumoSprings can compress all the way up to 80% of the original body height if need be. The more they compress, the more resistance they give so the capacity shown at 50% extends with the spring rate. When deciding between the -40 and -47, it’s really about frequency and your preference between more of a soft unloaded ride (-40), or a firm unloaded ride (-47). We typically recommend the -40 on a vehicle that is mostly unloaded/empty than loaded up. If your truck is usually the other way around and is loaded up more than unloaded, then the -47 would be better fitted for your suspension needs. Hope this helps!
Hi- I have a 2018 Ford F250 4×4 diesel. My slide in camper weighs around 2200 lbs and the tongue weight of my boat w/trailer is around 300. Also have a travel trailer at 6500lbs with corresponding tongue weight. Truck has one of these load probably at least 50% of the time. Should I go with the black or blue? The slide in camper sage the rear about 3 inches. thanks
Hi Scott,
Thanks for the information, my name is Peter. I recommend the blue Rebel SumoSprings kit; part number SSR-128-40-2.
https://www.superspringsinternational.com/application-guide/SSR-128-40-2
Installation Instructions: https://www.superspringsinternational.com/instructions/INS_SSR-128-40-2.pdf
This kit gives 3,000 lbs. capacity at 50% compression, while also providing a smooth, progressive ride quality while the truck is loaded and unloaded. Take a look and let me know what questions you have Scott.
I just purchased a used Tundra SR5 Double cab, my travel trailer is 7700 pounds fully loaded plus the gear in the truck and Kayaks on the top of the cap. i was leaning towards the black 1500 pound SumoSprings or should i go with the 1000 pounders. this truck is my tow pig and winter vehicle. if the black is a bit stiffer ride that is ok.
Thoughts, is my logic flawed?
Thanks
Hey Jeff,
Not flawed at all! We typically recommend the -40 (blue/1,000 lbs. density) for trucks that are empty or lightly loaded most of the time, and only occasionally loaded up with excessive weight.
If your truck is generally loaded up and never really empty, the -47 (black/1,500 lbs. density) is the way to go. On an unloaded truck, it will be more firm; not harsh, but more firm.
I have a 2018 Ram Promaster converted camper van. Total weight 6500 # with the conversion (GWV 8900). When I travel, I may add another 600# to the vehicle. For best result for rear, which color 40, 47 or 54 do you recommend. I will not tow anything.
Also do you recommend adding the front sumo springs?
Hi Chen-Wei,
Sounds like a fun project! Thanks for the information you’ve given, it really helps. The parts depend on which ProMaster you have, but typically the yellow SumoSprings (-54) are what are best for the rear. For the ProMaster 3500 in particular, here is what we recommend:
Front
CSS-1195 – https://www.superspringsinternational.com/shop/css-1195/ (click on link for more info)
Rear
SSR-313-54 – https://www.superspringsinternational.com/shop/ssr-313-54/ (click on link for more info)
Although the front kit is not 100% required to be installed at the same time as the rear, you will see much more of an improvement by upgrading all four corners, seeing as suspension is a holistic system where the front end works in conjunction with the rear end. Our team is in constant communication with ProMaster owners, and the overwhelming feedback points to going with both. If you actually have the 1500 or 2500, or have any questions at all, please let me know!
I have a 2020 RAM 1500 Crew Cab 4X4, 5.7 Hemi with 3.92 rear end, with Equilizer WD hitch and 28′ TT with approximate tongue weight of 775 lbs and pull it 12-14 times a year. Which pn and density, 40 or 47, would you recommend?
Hey Gary,
Thanks for the info, and for thinking of SumoSprings to help your truck! It really comes down to the old-fashioned “butt test!” However, here is how we usually recommend how to choose the density:
If your truck is mostly unloaded, or lightly loaded, go with the blue (-40) density. If it is the other way around, and your truck is mostly loaded and rarely unloaded or lightly loaded up, go with the black (-47) density. There’s always an exception to the norm, but this is probably the best way to make the decision until you actually get the SumoSprings installed and get to try them out for yourself. Here are the part numbers:
SSR-307-40 (blue) – https://www.superspringsinternational.com/shop/ssr-307-40/
SSR-307-47 (black) – https://www.superspringsinternational.com/shop/ssr-307-47/
Please let me know if you have any questions!
So what did you ultimatley choose? Blue or black? I have an identical setup…
I have a 2014 Tundra CrewMax 4×4 5.7 L. I tow a TT approx 6400 lbs. The tongue is 700 lbs
With 2 group 24 batteries & 2 20 lb propane tanks on the tongue. The truck squats almost 2 inches. With the
Anderson WD hitch the rig is Drives well.
I am well under GVWR. Which Sumo spring helpers should I select, 47 or 54?
Jhuddy
Hello,
Thanks for all the info about your truck! Here is how I’d choose between the two:
If your truck is ever empty, at any time, go with the SSR-610-47 . This is a lighter density with a bit less of a spring rate which would be good for an unloaded ride.
If your truck is never empty, and always has this kind of weight applied, then go with the SSR-610-54 .
SSR-610-47 – https://www.superspringsinternational.com/shop/SSR-610-47/
SSR-610-54 – https://www.superspringsinternational.com/shop/SSR-610-54/
Let me know if you have any questions!
I have a class B on a 2017 Mercedes Sprinter 3500 chassis 2 wheel drive. The GVWR is 11,050 lbs. Which sumo springs do you recommend? the 338-40(blue)/ 338-47(black)/ 338-554 (yellow)
Gus,
Thank you for reaching out to us, if you are going to be towing anything I would recommend the SSR-338-54. If you are not towing anything I would recommend using the SSR-338-47. For the front of the coach I would go with the SSF-106-40. Please let me know if there is anything else that I can help you with.
Thank you,
Mac
Hello, I have a srw 99 f350 that I use as a work truck for granite countertops.I regularly carry 1500-3000lbs in the bed. About once or twice a month I can carry 4000lbs+ in the bed when I go to pick up slabs, sometimes the truck squats quite a bit. Also plan on getting a camper soon and those usually weight 3000-3500. Question is, should I get the rebel sumosprings 3000lb or 5000lb. Wondering if the 5000lb would make the ride a little rough when unloaded or going off road. Also I might add that I have rancho 9000xl shocks that can adjust the shock absorbers stiffness. Let me kno what you guys think
Donovan,
Thanks for reaching out. If you’re hauling 1500-3000 lbs regularly, then the SSR-101-40-2 could be a great option. If you’re only occasionally hauling close to 4K then you should be in good shape. The SSR-101-40-2 is rated at 3K at 50% compression so you can load it over 3k from time to time. I don’t think you’ll need more. If you do require additional support, we do offer a 30 day satisfaction guarantee. So, if you buy them directly from us, we can swap them out if you needed more support. the SSR-101-40-2 is also going to give you the smoothest unloaded ride quality. Please let me know if you have any further questions.
Hello Joe,
Thank you for contacting us. For your 2014 F-53 Newmar with a 20,500 GVWR we would recommend the SSF-170-40-2 for the front and the SSR-187-54-1 for the rear. Below are the links to product info and pricing. I’ve also included the instructions. Please note that on certain coaches there is a metal bar on the frame in the rear that will not allow for proper installation, please check the coach before ordering to make sure that there is nothing preventing proper installation. Please let me know if you have any questions.
Front
SSF-170-40-2: https://www.superspringsinternational.com/shop/SSF-170-40-2
Instructions: https://www.superspringsinternational.com/instructions/INS_SSF-170-40-2.pdf
Rear
SSR-187-54-1 :https://www.superspringsinternational.com/shop/SSR-187-54-1
Instructions: https://www.superspringsinternational.com/instructions/INS_SSR-187-54-1.pdf
Thank you,
Jennifer
(805) 881-3820
[email protected]
Hello,
I have a 2014 Newmar Bay Star with a GVWR weight of 20,500 lbs on a F53 chassis with a 7500 lb front GAWR. Can you please recommend which Sumo Springs I should use on the front and rear. Thank you.
Hey Gary,
The SumoSprings aren’t quite as effective as a sway bar, as the primary function of the SumoSprings is to add capacity to the suspension of the vehicle. However, because of how they are designed, and the material they are manufactured from, they do reduce body and roll and improve overall handling. The SumoSprings Solo kit is the kit we offer for the Tundra, which is available in three different densities:
-40 (Blue): light and medium duty
-47 (Black): light, medium, and heavy duty
-54 (Yellow): medium and heavy duty
I do not recommend the -54 (Part number SSR-610-54), because your vehicle is not used for commercial purposes.
If your truck is loaded most of the time and rarely unloaded or empty the -47 is most appropriate (SSR-610-47).
If your truck is empty/unloaded most of the time, then the -40 is the one I recommend (SSR-610-40).
SSR-610-40 – https://www.superspringsinternational.com/shop/SSR-610-40/
SSR-610-47 – https://www.superspringsinternational.com/shop/SSR-610-47/
Hope this helps, let me know if you have any questions!
Hello. I have a 2019 Toyota Tundra TRD PRO which in mostly used when traveling, or hauling a 3-horse slant or 24′ car-hauler that carries everything from a classic car to round bales of hay; both are bumper pull. I will soon add a TRD rear sway bar to help with stability but I’d don’t expect that to do much for the sagging rear end. I’ve been considering airbags which I’ve had on previous vehicles, but I don’t really like having to worry about air pressure… I just this morning heard about your product so I’m curious about its comparability with the sway bar, the ability to support the rear vehicle sage, and the ride when not towing. Also, regardless of the trailer load, we always have three 100lb+ German Shepherds riding in the truck bed. Thanks, Gary
Hi there,
I have a 2002 Ford E350 Super Duty that I am converting into a camper van. I will be adding a lot of weight the the vehicle and a looking at your Maxim kit to help improve the ride quality and wear on the vehicle.
I am looking at the yellow -54 density as apposed to the black -47. I am happy with a firmer ride and am treating this as more of a commercial vehicle as it will be constantly loaded.
Do you think the -54 density will be too much for my application?
Thanks,
Tom
Hi Tom,
Hope all is well! With suspension, bigger or heavier isn’t always better. Especially when referring to the Maxim kit. I recommend the -47, as we do want to keep ride quality in mind. For your particular application, go with the following part numbers:
Front:
SSF-106-40 https://www.superspringsinternational.com/shop/SSF-106-40
Rear:
SSR-106-47-1 https://www.superspringsinternational.com/shop/SSR-106-47-1/
The SSR-106-47-1 is rated at 4,600 lbs. at 50% compression, and can also compress all the way up to 80% of it’s original body height. Take a look at these parts, and let me know what you think!
Hi Ed,
Thanks for your question. We have one SumoSprings type, in two densities available. Here is how I recommend which kit to go with:
If your truck is unloaded more than not, let’s say about 80% of the time unloaded and 20% of the time loaded, go with the SSR-307-40 – https://www.superspringsinternational.com/shop/SSR-307-40/
If it is the opposite, and your truck is loaded up more than unloaded, then go with the SSR-307-47 https://www.superspringsinternational.com/shop/SSR-307-47/
Let me know if you have any questions Ed!
Peter,
Thanks for the quick reply … would the SSR-307-47 cause the ride to change when not towing? My concern is that the SSR-307-40 will let the rear end of the truck sag when towing(and the bed is full of gear).
Thanks for the help
Ed,
The idea behind SumoSprings is not to completely eliminate sag. Suspension is designed to naturally articulate. SumoSprings work in conjunction with the original equipment to create a more smooth, and assisted comfortable ride. The -40 is soft enough to improve unloaded ride quality, but dense enough to provide a noticeable improvement while your truck is loaded. The -47 will obviously provide more capacity, but the unloaded ride quality will definitely be more “firm.” Now, my idea of comfort might very well be different than yours, but the feedback I’ve received over the years overwhelmingly support the -40 unloaded ride quality.
Hi, we have a 2019 Ram 1500, rated to tow 11,400 lbs., with a 300 lb. canopy. We have a 4800 lb. boat on a 1100 lb. trailer, which sumospring will help while towing and ride well when not towing?
I have a 2017 winniebago navion on a 3500 sprinter chassis. Which front and rear sumo springs would i need and where can i have them installed in my area. Laguna Niguel CA 92677. Can I order from you and how much do they cost.
Hi Ray,
Peter with the Sales and Service Team here, thank you for your question. I am going to presume your Sprinter 3500 is 4×2, and not 4×4. With that being said, here are the part numbers I recommend for you:
Front
SSF-106-40 – $173.75
https://www.superspringsinternational.com/shop/SSF-106-40
Rear
**If you do not tow anything with your Sprinter
SSR-338-47 – $241.25
https://www.superspringsinternational.com/shop/SSR-338-47/
If you do tow with your Spritner
SSR-338-54
https://www.superspringsinternational.com/shop/SSR-338-54/
This is only if your Sprinter is 4×2. Let me know if yours is 4×4, or if you have any questions!
My 2011 Winnebago Vista 30w has gross weight of 18000
Hello Kennard,
Thank you for providing that information. For your 2011 Ford F-53 Winnebago 18K GVWR we would recommend the following parts.
For the Front: SSF-170-40-2
https://www.superspringsinternational.com/shop/SSF-170-40-2
For the Rear:SSR-184-40-1
https://www.superspringsinternational.com/shop/SSR-184-40-1
Please let me know if you have any other questions.
Thank you,
Jennifer
(805)881-3820
[email protected]
I have a 2011 Winnebago Vista 30 w on a Ford f53 chassis with a 190 inch wheel base, the coach has 16000 miles one it. I would like to know what you would recommend to make it ride a lot smoother on the highway. I feel all the joints in the road. It has a very harsh ride. Thank you Kennard mertz
Hello Kennard,
Thank you for contacting us. We would recommend out SumoSprings to smooth out your ride. To get you the correct part numbers, may I please have your GVWR (gross vehicle weight rating)?
Thank you,
Jennifer
(805)881-3820
[email protected]
18000 gvw on my 2011 Ford f53 chassis
Hello Kennard,
Thank you for providing that information. For your 2011 Ford F-53 Winnebago 18K GVWR we would recommend the following parts.
For the Front: SSF-170-40-2
https://www.superspringsinternational.com/shop/SSF-170-40-2
For the Rear:SSR-184-40-1
https://www.superspringsinternational.com/shop/SSR-184-40-1
Please let me know if you have any other questions.
Thank you,
Jennifer
(805)881-3820
[email protected]
I have a 2013 tundra and I tow a 16 ft bass boat occasionaly. I have stock shocks on the rear. would like to know what type of sumo springs to use. i want a smoother ride when i’m not towing. also should i get a swaybar to go along with these springs. will it make the ride to stiff with that combo? one more thing i have Bilstein 5100 adjustable leveler schocks on the front. i was thinking about getting rid of those because they are to stiff and going back to the stock struts which are supposed to be a softer ride compared to the bilsteins. i want the front end a little higher to level the rake from the rear. so i thought about having a 1 inch spacer installed on top of strut. but i am worried that it to might be to stiff because of the lift. do your front jounce bumpers raise the front end up and does it affect the ride?
Hi Bob,
Thank you for your questions, my name is Peter here. Unfortunately we do not manufacture SumoSprings for the front of a 2013 Toyota Tundra. We might have the Coil SumoSprings available for the front though. Is your truck 4×2 or 4×4?
For the rear, I recommend SSR-610-40. This is the SumoSprings Solo kit, designed to replace and upgrade the original bump stop. Since you only tow occasionally, we want to keep your unloaded ride quality in mind. This is why I recommend the -40 density (blue), as it is the softest density we offer. Although it is the softest, the SSR-610-40 still provides 1,000 pounds of capacity at 50% compression! Take a look here, and let me know what you think: https://www.superspringsinternational.com/shop/SSR-610-40/
Thanks again Bob!
Hello
I have a 2018 Jayco Greyhawk class C with the JRide suspension. I am considering installing the -47 spring in the rear of my coach for 2 reasons. The first being to help gain a little height while towing my 7×14 cargo trailer and the second for ride help. Reason i am looking for little additional height is that the stock suspension with trailer loaded is a bit low and the hitch at the ball, scrapes the ground on slight inclines. I wish to eliminate this problem. Is this the correct helper spring i should be considering? Also which spring should i pair up with it for the front of the coach for the best balance
Hey Bruce,
My name is Peter. Are you looking to reduce the amount of sag your truck experiences, or add to the stock ride height? Also, what is the year, make, and model of the chassis your Jayco is built on?
Hello,
I have a 2018 F-250. I use it to tow a gooseneck trailer with a pin weight of around 2,000 lbs. the truck sags with this trailer, but not an extreme amount. I do not tow this trailer everyday but do pull it about 4-6 days a month.
I see two options for my truck – the 127-47 (black) with a 1,500 lb capacity and the 127-54 (yellow) with the 2,800 lb capacity. I am a bit confused on which to choose. Are the pound ratings you specify for the load, or what the sumo springs themselves support? By that I mean my 2,000lb load is over the 1,500 lb rating of the 127-47 but I assume my factory springs are carrying the bulk of the weight already and I doubt the sumos will be carrying over 1,500lbs themselves.
Brandon,
The SumoSprings work in conjunction with your current suspension on your truck. The 1500lbs would be in addition to what your truck can currently tow. Do you have a 2 or 4 wheel drive truck? We have a new rebel kit that would provide you with 2600lbs and is made from our softest material. Since you are not towing at all time this rebel kit will not affect your unloaded ride and could actually cushion it. I would recommend the SSR-128-40-2 if you have a single rear wheel 4×4, or the SSR-129-40-2 if you have a 4×2.
I have a 2018 PleasureWay Ascent on a 2017 Mercedes-Benz Sprinter 2500 chassis, which I’ve had for 15 months and about 8600 miles. Frankly it rides very well under most circumstances.
However, I often carry my Vespa scooter on a rack on the hitch, which adds 300# which sticks out about 2’ behind the back bumper. There have been a few times in which I’ve gone over bumps such as railroad tracks with the scooter on there, and I could feel the axle hit the factory bump stops, not hard, but definitely hitting.
Also, although I haven’t yet done so, I also plan to tow my boat, which weighs almost 4000# and has a 400# hitch weight. I’ll use a weight distribution hitch, which I have used with other tow vehicles.
So after looking at your website and some of your videos, I think your SumoSprings that replace the rear axle bump stops would be a good thing to install. Do you agree? Thanks.
Cary,
Thank you for your entry. I do believe that the solo bump stops will help you in this situation. I would recommend part number SSR-330-47, this will provide you with ample amount of support, while still keeping the factory ride on the springs. If you have any questions please let me know. My email is [email protected]
Thank you,
Mac Tackett
Should I use SSR 106-40-1 or the -2 for my 2017 Ford E350 (Coachmen Leprechaun)? One is a single piece and the other is two-piece to allow more travel. I already have the SSF 106-40 on the front. Thanks.
Hi Dave,
Thank you for your question.
For a vehicle with a constant load, such as an RV, the Maxim kit (one-piece unit) is recommended.
For a vehicle with a load that frequently changes, the Rebel kit (two-piece unit) is recommended.
The additional increase in stability, and handle of the vehicle provided by the Maxim generally supersedes the travel ability of the rear suspension on an application such as an RV.
I have a 2016 tacoma four door long box that I am considering putting the Sumo rear springs on. I occasionally haul a heavy load of firewood or building materials maybe two or three times a year. I want to still have a good ride when empty but would like to reduce sway with a heavy load. Would you recommend the 612-40 or the 612-47 springs
Hello Al,
As mentioned in the post, You’re still after the comfort, and ride quality, except you tow every once in a while. Our -47 density is the way to go.
In your situation I would recommend SSR-612-47
https://www.superspringsinternational.com/shop/SSR-612-47
Thanks for the informative write-up. Towing vehicles is something that always requires great suspension, so we’re always looking to enhance when it makes sense. Cheers.
2000 dodge ram 2500 2wd. I pull a 8300 lb travel trailer. Would the sumospring help the ride and if so which one would be the best?
Hello Roger,
The earliest year SumoSprings are available for a Dodge Ram 2500 is 2003.
However, SuperSprings can still assist, especially with load-leveling ability. As a by-product of the design, SuperSprings also reduce sway by up to 30%, definitely beneficial to the ride.
If your truck does not sag while hooked up to the trailer, I recommend going with SSA40
If it does sag, then I recommend SSA22
Please let us know if you have any questions at all.
Hello,
I have a 2009 Freightliner Sprinter 3500 Dually. It’s used as a shuttle and has a capacity of 17 passengers. I would like to provide a better ride for my clients, less bumpy and smoother ride. We are not always at capacity so I am not sure what is a good balance in choice of product to add. I’m afraid that a to rigid product will be bad for a less loaded shuttle. It does not have the 2 inch additional block on the axle and it has an all stock suspension. What’s your recommendation?
Angel,
Thank you for your question.
For your passenger van we have SumoSprings for the front and rear.
Front – SSF-106-40
https://www.superspringsinternational.com/shop/SSF-106-40
Rear- SSR-338-47
These two parts are used on RV’s made to provide better stability and ride comfort. Since your passenger van isn’t as loaded as an RV would be. This kit will for allow for an even better stability.
Please let me know if you have any questions.
Hi , I have a 3/4 ton f-250 which playload is between 3500 and 4000 pounds, how ever I’m putting a truck slide in camper which weight is close to 2000 pounds! On this case witch color of spring you recommend? “Camper goes on top of truck”!
Hello Sid,
Thank you for contacting us. The part number also depends on the year of your truck. We tend to recommend the -47 SumoSprings for recreational applications, and the -54 SumoSprings for commercial applications. However, there are a few examples of the -54 being more popular even in recreational applications (Mercedes-Benz Sprinter, Dodge ProMaster). What is the year of your Ford F-250?
I am thinking about adding some springs to a 2011 Ford Thor Freedom Elite Class RV / E350 chassis. I have done some improvements to help with steering wandering. I changed all shocks to Bilstein HD, added a front sway bar, and steering dampner. The rear is factory sway bar. I believe my gross weight is 11.5K. I have not weighed my coach loaded up. I was thinking of air bags since the rear seems to sag but was interested in sumo springs. The Rv has about 35k miles.
Hello Pat,
Thank you for your question.
We have some great options for both the front and the rear of your coach.
Front – SSF-106-40
https://www.superspringsinternational.com/shop/SSF-106-40
Rear- SSR-106-40-1
https://www.superspringsinternational.com/shop/SSR-106-40-1
or
Rear- SSR-106-47-1
https://www.superspringsinternational.com/shop/SSR-106-47-1
The SSR-106-40-1 is designed to provide great stability as it attaches to both the frame and axle. It is also made from our light duty density SumoSprings (Blue) so it will give you a soft feel to the ride.
The SSR-106-47-2 is a great option if your RV is fully loaded and you tow behind it as well. The SSR-106-47-2 is made of our medium duty density SumoSprings (Black) provides a 4,600 pounds capacity at 50% compression and will also give you a soft feel to the ride as well. The difference in this case of the feel of ride between the -40 & -47 is minuscule.
There is a caveat as you will need to have a minimum of 7″ of clearance from the side wall of the tire to the frame.
If that is the case these two will be your best options.
If not, we can further discuss other options for the rear at least.
Please let me know if you have any questions!
I have a 2015 tundra 8 ft bed double cab. about 5 times a year a I haul a load of firewoodl I can feel suspension bottom on bumps. truck sags but actually handles fairly good. would yellow be overkill or would I be happier with black?
Thank you.
Mark Rogers
Hello Mark,
Thank you for your question. The material of the -54 density is more suited for commercial, or heavier applications. Since you only haul about 5 times a year, I’d say the -54 would be a bit more than what you need. Especially during all the time you aren’t loaded with the firewood. This is why I recommend the SSR-610-47 instead https://www.superspringsinternational.com/shop/SSR-610-47/
Let me know if you have any other questions!
I have a 2018 tundra trd 4×4 leveled with Bilstein 5100 all around I tow a 4000 lb Starcraft travel trailer
which sumo spring would you recommend
Mark,
Thank you for your entry, for this application I would recommend the SSR-610-40. The reasoning behind this is the 4000lb trailer’s hitch weight is normally between 10-15%. If we were to go with 15% that would put it at around 600lbs. The SSR-610-40 is rated at 1000lbs of capacity at 50% compression. This will provide you with enough support, and will not affect the unloaded ride. If you have any questions please let me know.
Thank you
I’m considering adding rear sumosprings and front coil sumosprings to my 2019 Winnebago Travato 59KL. I understand that you can gain a slight increase in rear ground clearance of around 1-1.5 inches. I also understand that a smoother ride with an increase in stability and control can be gained. My question is which density of sumosprings should I have installed? GVWR IS 9350 lbs — 4630 lbs-front/5291 lbs-rear. Occupant and cargo carrying capacity (occc) is approximately 1900 lbs. GCWR is 11500 lbs.
Hi Steve, we have spent time communicating with a lot of Travato owners. Quite honestly, both the SSR-313-47 and SSR-313-54 have great reviews. The more popular seems to be the -54 amongst Travato owners, but everyone has their own personal preference. I would encourage you to ask fellow Travato owners. They have a great Facebook Group community you can join. They also have a website with resources, including an in depth FAQ on SumoSprings. I encourage you to check it out, as it will help answer your question: https://travato.group/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Travato-and-SumoSprings-FAQ.pdf. In response to your comment about ground clearance. Remember, we are not lifting your van, we are reducing the amount of sag. So, yes. Travato owners do report varying ground clearance increases, but, it varies depending on the amount of weight causing the sag, and the age of the spring pack assembly. Hope this resource helps. Please feel free to give me a call in the office or email to discuss further.
I recently purchased a 1988 Minnie Winnie Winnebago. Please provide me application info for a suspension upgrade. Vehicle has 60K miles. Thank you.
Hi Joey,
Thank you for inquiring about SumoSprings. I’ll need a bit more information from you, in order to ensure the proper recommended part numbers. Can you please let me know the year, make, and model of the chassis your Winnebago is built on top of?
Hi there!
Thank you for your question.
We actually do not perform installations at our factory. You are more than welcome to stop by and place an order, or pick some SumoSprings up if you place an order on our website though. If you already have them however, we can assist with finding an installer near you. Either way, let me know so we can help you get some SumoSprings on your motorhome!
Do you install sumo Springs on a F53 Motorhome chassis?